Cogito Ergo Sum was Only Half right
excerpted from maddowblog:
Jilly... the whole issue with religion and faith is that it is personal. Your relationship ( or not) with God is your own. As is mine. God is found in conciousness alone because this is a relative universe bound by space and time. An island in the eternal, infinite, and absolute that is the mind of God. The only place that those exist is in the hearts and minds of men. To go back to the cosmic watchmaker argument (for which **** is trying to find an organic analogue in the creation and structure of eyes) it doesn't matter whether or not it is found, no hand needs wind it...it just keeps ticking away. Did God create the universe, design the world? It doesn't matter. In the Bible, the Name of God is "I AM." Cogito ergo sum is only half right. Sum, what ever you cogito about it. Things ARE, life IS. Unarguable. That is the starting point. If you try to look any further back for first causes the way **** is, you might as well sit in a corner and diddle yourself for all the good it will do you or anyone else. I am among other things, an existentialist. Essence follows existance. Sh!t happens. How it happens is open for investigation, why it happens is for you to wonder about, what happens is for you to decide. If there were no people, would there be God? Would it matter a gnat's fart?
To impute any further than that, much less to coerce actions, belief or fealty in others in the name of God is truly to take the Lord's name in vain, reduce the Logos down to a brand name which is wielded in the persecution of gays and lesbians, women, and others who worship the same God, but under a different brand name. The lily of the valley is sufficient in its rainment, but there is great political power in use of the brand name. Hence the V A S T disparity between what Jesus actually preached and what is done in his name and the willingness of his followers to sacrifice others on the altar of political expediency just like he was by the Romans at the agitiation of the Pharisees.
And THAT is the history that keeps being repeated time and again. Be cynical, its good for you. [I'm going to have to copy this and put it in my own blog]
2!#21.111 - Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:54 PM EDT
Jilly... the whole issue with religion and faith is that it is personal. Your relationship ( or not) with God is your own. As is mine. God is found in conciousness alone because this is a relative universe bound by space and time. An island in the eternal, infinite, and absolute that is the mind of God. The only place that those exist is in the hearts and minds of men. To go back to the cosmic watchmaker argument (for which **** is trying to find an organic analogue in the creation and structure of eyes) it doesn't matter whether or not it is found, no hand needs wind it...it just keeps ticking away. Did God create the universe, design the world? It doesn't matter. In the Bible, the Name of God is "I AM." Cogito ergo sum is only half right. Sum, what ever you cogito about it. Things ARE, life IS. Unarguable. That is the starting point. If you try to look any further back for first causes the way **** is, you might as well sit in a corner and diddle yourself for all the good it will do you or anyone else. I am among other things, an existentialist. Essence follows existance. Sh!t happens. How it happens is open for investigation, why it happens is for you to wonder about, what happens is for you to decide. If there were no people, would there be God? Would it matter a gnat's fart?
To impute any further than that, much less to coerce actions, belief or fealty in others in the name of God is truly to take the Lord's name in vain, reduce the Logos down to a brand name which is wielded in the persecution of gays and lesbians, women, and others who worship the same God, but under a different brand name. The lily of the valley is sufficient in its rainment, but there is great political power in use of the brand name. Hence the V A S T disparity between what Jesus actually preached and what is done in his name and the willingness of his followers to sacrifice others on the altar of political expediency just like he was by the Romans at the agitiation of the Pharisees.
And THAT is the history that keeps being repeated time and again. Be cynical, its good for you. [I'm going to have to copy this and put it in my own blog]
2!#21.111 - Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:54 PM EDT
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